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Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:09 am
by Fernando
Garudaman wrote:
sum wrote:Hello Garudaman

Your two Koranic quotes have nothing whatsoever to do with consent for sexual intercourse.

QS. 4:6 is indeed have nothing whatsoever to do, but you can see phrase "marriageable age" there, & QS. 4:21 "how could you take it while you have gone in unto each other" shows covenant to give gift for "have gone unto each other"/sexual intercourse!
Funny way of putting it. Allah must be talking of male homosexual intercourse.

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:32 pm
by frankie
Garudaman wrote:
sum wrote:Hello Garudaman

Your two Koranic quotes have nothing whatsoever to do with consent for sexual intercourse.

QS. 4:6 is indeed have nothing whatsoever to do, but you can see phrase "marriageable age" there, & QS. 4:21 "how could you take it while you have gone in unto each other" shows covenant to give gift for "have gone unto each other"/sexual intercourse!

sum wrote:You are claiming that the ahadith are corrupted yet all Islamic authorities over the centuries have regarded them as sahih.

sahih is just means that it has strong witnesses (so it's useful for determining which hadith that be prioritized for verification), not means that it's true!

;)

Garudaman:

You are loosing sight of a fundamental fact, Mohammed satisfied his sexual needs on a child's body.

This is a man you call a prophet of god, and is eternally held as a role model for mankind.

Are you serious??

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:48 pm
by sum
Hello Garudaman

You still have not told me whether you think that 9yr old Aisha wanted to have sexual intercourse with 53yr old Muhammad.

What do you think? Is it likely?

sum

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:34 pm
by Garudaman
pr126 wrote:Who decides what is true and what is not?

primary source of that religion! ;)

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:13 pm
by pr126
Garudaman wrote:
pr126 wrote:Who decides what is true and what is not?

primary source of that religion! ;)

Which would be the Quran, I assume.

So why do we have "questionable" hadiths? More over, when did these hadits became questionable?
When infidels started questioning them. For 1350 years they were quite fine.
Now they are no longer 'sahih' if the hadit puts Islam or the prophet in bad light. :sly:

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:58 pm
by Hombre
pr126 wrote:Who decides what is true and what is not?
This question has been asked for past 1400 years - we have yet get a palatable answer from our Muslim friends.

Muhammad was asked that question - his standard replies - chop heads.

Re: Age of marriage as per quran

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:03 pm
by Hombre
sum wrote:Hello Garudaman

You still have not told me whether you think that 9yr old Aisha wanted to have sexual intercourse with 53yr old Muhammad.

What do you think? Is it likely?

sum
sum, I believe fes had already answered that question with Muslim’s standard replies. "Since her father, and the so- called husband, had already decided for Aysha - who cares what she thinks, what is best for her?