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The moment that the white British become a minority will symbolize a huge transfer of power -- cultural political, economic and religious -- an "irreversible change in British society, unprecedented for at least a millennium." — David Coleman, Professor of Demography, University of Oxford
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Britain's Islamic Future

Islam is on track to become the dominant religion in Britain within the next generation, according to new census data published by the British government.

The numbers show that although Christianity is still the main religion in Britain -- over 50% of the population describe themselves as such -- nearly half of all Christians in Britain are over the age of 50, and, for the first time ever, fewer than half under the age of 25 describe themselves as Christian.

By contrast, the number of people under 25 who describe themselves as Muslim has doubled over the past ten years: one in ten under the age of 25 are Muslim, up from one in 20 in 2001.

If current trends continue -- a Muslim population boom, combined with an aging Christian demographic and the increasing secularization of British natives -- Islam is set to overtake Christianity in Britain within the next 20 years, according to demographers.

A new report published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) on May 16 offers additional analyses of the 2011 census data previously published in December 2012.

In the 2011 Census, Christianity was still the largest religious group in England and Wales with 33.2 million people (59% of the population). The second largest religious group was Islam with 2.7 million people (5% of the population). The proportion of people who reported that they did not have a religion reached 14.1 million people, a quarter of the population (25%).

Although the overall population of England and Wales grew by 3.7 million between 2001 and 2011 to reach 56.1 million, in 2011, there were 4.1 million fewer people who reported being Christian (from 72% to 59% of the population). By contrast, 1.2 million more people reported being Muslim (from 3% to 5%), and 6.4 million more people reported no religion (from 15% to 25%).

The new report, however, shows that the number of British Christians is actually falling at a far faster rate than previously thought. The earlier analysis of the statistics showed a roughly 15% decline in the number of Christians over the past decade, but the ONS found that this figure had been artificially influenced by the recent arrival of Christian immigrants from countries such as Nigeria and Poland.

According to the new report, the number of white British Christians actually fell by 5.8 million people between 2001 and 2011; this decline was masked by an increase in the number of Christians not born in Britain during that same period, but who were there due to immigration.

In the 2011 Census, Christians had the oldest age profile of the main religious groups. Over one in five Christians (22%) were aged 65 and over, and nearly one in two (43%) were aged 50 and over; only one quarter (25.5%) were under the age of 25.

By contrast, Muslims had the youngest age profile of the main religious groups. Nearly half of Muslims (48%) were aged under 25 (1.3 million) and nine in ten (88%) were aged under 50 (2.4 million).

Muslims were also more ethnically diverse than Christians. Two-thirds of Muslims (68%) were from an Asian background, including Pakistani (38%) and Bangladeshi (15%). The proportion of Muslims reporting as Black/African/Caribbean/Black British (10%) was similar to those reporting as "other" ethnic group (11%). 93% of people (13.1 million) with no religion were from a white background.

The number of Muslims increased in all ethnic groups, but there was a particular jump among Asian Muslims. Pakistani Muslims increased by 371,000 (from 658,000 to over a million) and Bangladeshi Muslims have grown by 142,000 (from 260,000 to 402,000).

Just over half of all Muslims (53%) in 2011 were born outside Britain. The numbers have almost doubled in a decade with a rise of over half a million (599,000) from 828,000 to 1.4 million in 2011. A similar pattern can be seen for the number of Muslims born in Britain, where there was also a rise of over a half a million (560,000) from 718,000 to 1.2 million in 2011.

Muslims also had the lowest levels of economic activity (55%), compared to Christians (60%). The numbers are somewhat deceiving, however, as age is a major factor in economic activity. As most Christians in Britain are from an older demographic, this means that a large proportion of Christians not participating in the labor force are "retired" (69%).

By contrast, Muslims had the youngest age profile and were the most often economically inactive because they were "looking after home or family" (31%) or because they were "students" (30%). According to the census data, only 13% of Muslims in Britain were "retired."

In an interview with The Telegraph newspaper, Fraser Watts, a professor of theology at Cambridge University, said it was "entirely possible" that Christians could become a minority within the next decade. "It is still pretty striking," he said, "and it is a worrying trend and confirms what anyone can observe -- that in many churches the majority of the congregation are over 60."

David Coleman, a professor of demography at the University of Oxford, said the findings showed that Christianity is declining with each generation. "Each large age group," he said, "as time progresses, receives less inculcation into Christianity than its predecessor ten years earlier."

Coleman contrasts the decline of Christianity through the generations to what happens among Muslims. "We have a Muslim faith where most studies suggest adherence to Islam is not only transmitted through the generations but appears to get stronger," he said. "Indeed, there seems to be some evidence that the second generation Muslims in Britain are more Muslim than their parents."

In a recently published study, Coleman predicted that up to 40% of the population of Britain will be foreign or from a minority ethnic group within 50 years if current trends continue. By that time the white British population will be on the verge of becoming a minority.

According to Coleman, the combined population of ethnic minorities will exceed white Britons in about 2070; the non-white population could increase to 24 million and other whites to seven million by 2050.

The moment that the white British become a minority will symbolize a huge transfer of power. Coleman says it will underline a changed national identity -- cultural, political, economic and religious. "An older white population would need to co-exist with a younger ethnic population, arguably required for its support," he said.

Coleman has warned of the consequences of the ethnic transformation taking place in Britain and other parts of Europe. "History is not sanguine about the capacity of ethnic groups or religions to overcome their differences. The ethnic transformation implicit in current trends would be a major, unlooked-for, and irreversible change in British society, unprecedented for at least a millennium," Coleman said.

Separately, it recently emerged that nearly one-third of all children born in England and Wales now have at least one foreign-born parent. In 2011, 224,943 babies had either one or both parents born outside of the United Kingdom -- 31% of the total. This is a substantial rise on the figure in 2000, when 21.2% of babies had at least one non-British-born parent.

As Mohammed was by far the most popular name for baby boys born in England and Wales in 2011, many of these foreign-born parents would appear to be Muslim.

The politically correct ONS declared that Harry was the most popular boy's name, with 7,523 baby boys receiving that name in 2011. But if one adds up the 22 different spellings of Mohammed (Mohammed, Muhammad, Mohammad, Muhammed, Mahammad, Mohamed, Mohamud, etc.), a total of 8,146 baby boys born in Britain were named after the Muslim prophet in 2011.

Sir Andrew Green, the director of Migration Watch, a think tank that focuses on immigration, summed it up this way: "This is the clear result of the Labour Party's mass immigration policy which is changing the nature of our society at a speed which is unacceptable to the public who of course were never consulted."

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“Hello. My name is Paul Weston and I am a racist”
If Britain is to survive and prosper, this is the man it desperately needs to elect as its next prime minister.
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The British taxpayer has spent £1.7million in eight years on the battle to kick out Abu Qatada, it emerged today.
More than a third of the bill is to cover the legal aid claims made by the radical cleric against attempts to deport him to Jordan.
Critics slammed the huge sum which could pay for 90 police officers for a year.

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The deportation of radical Islamist cleric Abu Qatada took a step closer after the Jordanian government agreed a treaty with the UK
KEY EVENTS IN ABU QATADA'S BATTLE AGAINST DEPORTATION

September 16 1993 - The Jordanian father of five claims asylum when he arrives in Britain on a forged passport.

May 1998 - He applies for indefinite leave to remain in Britain.

April 1999 - He is convicted in his absence on terror charges in Jordan and sentenced to life imprisonment.

February 2001 - He is arrested by anti-terror police over involvement in a plot to bomb Strasbourg Christmas market. Officers find him in possession of £170,000 in cash, including £805 in an envelope marked 'For the mujahedin in Chechnya'.

August 2005 - The preacher is arrested under immigration rules as the Government seeks to deport him to Jordan.

April 2008 - The Court of Appeal rules that deporting him would breach his human rights because evidence used against him in Jordan may have been obtained through torture.

February 18 2009 - In a landmark judgment, five Law Lords unanimously back the Government's policy of removing terror suspects from Britain on the basis of assurances from foreign governments. It is ruled he can be deported to Jordan to face terror charges.

April 18 2012 - Abu Qatada lodges an appeal - potentially delaying his deportation by months.

March 6 2013 - He is returned to jail over fears the terror suspect was trying to communicate with associates, in breach of bail conditions.

March 27 2013 - Court of Appeal admits hate preacher is 'very dangerous' but rules sending him to face a terror trial in Jordan would not be fair.
April 17 2013 - Home Office says it will take its battle to the Supreme Court.

April 23 2013 - Court of Appeal rejects government request to appeal.
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The UK government has been dancing on eggs about this for years... It all comes down to fear. Will there be a "back lash"... and all that.

To be honest, if I had been the home secretary, I would send him packing FIRST, and then he can appeal all he wants from his prison cell in Jordan, if he must... There have been several times when a swift and decisive reaction would have resolved that problem. But the spectre of rioting Muslims paralyses politicians.
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This is not about Islam in England, but please British teenager do not kiss a local Turkish girl . The Turks do not like that.
Of course on the other hand....a Turk can kiss a British kafir girl and more ,because those girls are whores anyway.
Middlesbrough teenager Dwayne Ward recovering after Turkish knife attack 'for kissing local girl'

Two men arrested after 17-year-old suffered at least 17 stab wounds earlier this week in holiday resort of Marmaris, but aunt says he is recovering well

A British teenager is recovering in hospital in Turkey after being stabbed at least 17 times in an attack in the holiday resort of Marmaris, reportedly for kissing a local girl.

Dwayne Ward, 17, was discovered by local residents early on Tuesday morning, stripped naked with multiple stab wounds. He was taken to the intensive care unit of the Marmaris State Hospital, where his aunt, Carolyn Ward, said he is "recovering well".

Two men have been arrested in connection with the incident.

According to The Sun, in a police report, Dwayne said: "I was having fun while I was out and I kissed a Turkish girl at the bar I was in.

"I went to another bar and that was when they hit me in the head with a hard object. I don’t remember the rest."

Police and hospital reports say that he had been stabbed more than a dozen times, including twice in the throat and several times in the chest - including a piercing of the heart.

It is said he had also been stabbed in the groin, legs and back and his arms had been slashed with a razor.

Dwayne, from Middlesbrough, is thought to have been drinking in the resort on Monday night with his brother Darren, 32, before they became separated in the crowds.

CCTV footage reportedly shows two men following him and then grabbing him by his arms before being dragged into an alley. He was not found until the morning.

Attila Dincer, 26, who works cleaning cars in the area near to where Dwaine was found, is now being questioned in relation to the incident.

He was arrested early on Thursday morning, while Ismail A, 24, was arrested on a bus in Konya, several hundred miles away.

After emergency services were called, a doctor stabilised Ward at the scene before paramedics took him to hospital. He was reportedly staying at the Ali Baba Hotel with his brother and mother, where they were on holiday.

Earlier, his mother said: "Dwayne's facing another operation this morning.

"His dad's flying out from the UK to be with him. I'm too distressed to talk about it."

School friends and staff from Dwayne's school, Macmillan Academy, in Middlesbrough, said they were deeply saddened by the attack.

A spokesman said: "Staff and students at the Academy were deeply saddened by the news that a former student was left fighting for his life after a knife attack while on a family holiday in Turkey.

"The thoughts and prayers of staff and students go out to Dwayne in the express hope that he can make a complete recovery.

"There is a real sense of communal support for his accompanying family, who are having to come to terms with these traumatic circumstances."

The Foreign Office said it was aware that a British teenager had been taken to hospital.

It said: "We are aware of the case and can confirm that we are aware of the hospitalisation of a British national in Marmaris on June 25. We are providing consular assistance."

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Is this true? :ohmy: How can they. And if it is true, is this female genital mutilation being payed by the NHS ? ( National Health Service )
It’s Shocking, 640 Females in Birmingham Hospital Get Treatment for Genital Mutilation

It has been revealed 640 females have been treated at a Birmingham hospital for genital mutilation. Heartlands Hospital, in Bordesley Green, is a specialist centre in the UK and treats victims of cruel ritual.

National Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Children released shocking statistics that showed 1,700 victims in the past two years. Out of those, 40% were from the West Midlands area.

The charity has launched a helpline in a bid to prevent children from undergoing the oppressive genital mutilation. Female genital mutilation is usually practiced by the African, Asian and Middle Eastern communities in the UK.

According to experts, this illegal and barbaric ritual has high potential to lead young victims suffer from physical and psychological problems, continuing even in adulthood.

The ritual does not involve any anesthetic, which makes it further worse as victim has to suffer unbearable pain. Victims are generally in the age group of four to 10 yrs, but some are babies.

Nasheima Sheikh is the deputy chief executive of Solihull Women's Aid. She said that their group is continuously making efforts to create awareness in the area, which has resulted in more enquiries to them and statutory bodies. There had been 12 FGM enquiries to the police from January to June this year.

Lisa Harker, NSPCC head of Strategy, said, "Like other forms of abuse if female genital mutilation is not exposed it will continue to thrive and more children will suffer".

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And of course they can't do anything about it - they haven't the faintest idea of who is responsible for arranging the attacking of these local children. Honest. Their parents would be horrified if they knew what had happened to their daughters while they weren't looking, I'm sure.
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Oh, dear... :cry: Poor Muslims.
UK Gov’t Fails To Protect Mosques, Muslims

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - “There has undoubtedly been a spike in anti-Muslim incidents since the Woolwich murder,” Professor Nigel Copsey, of Teesside University, and the author of the research told The Independent on Saturday, June 29.

“An obvious concern now is whether the number of hate crime incidents return to ‘normal’ levels or whether Woolwich has been a game-changer in terms of increasing the underlying incidence of anti-Muslim hate over the longer term.”

The research, carried by The Independent, showed that between 40 and 60 per cent of mosques and other Islamic centers (around 700) had been targeted since 9/11.

The number of anti-Islamic attacks has increased as much as tenfold in the days that followed the Woolwich murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.

Not only in mosques.

The research warned that Islamophobic attacks spreading across Britain have also targeted Muslims at home in the past month.

Copsey’s data is largely based in figures from the Islamophobia watchdog Tell Mama which showed an increase of attacks to nearly nine per day in the immediate aftermath of the Woolwich killing

According to Tell Mama project, which monitors anti-Muslim attacks in Britain, 212 “anti-Muslim incidents” have been reported after the Woolwich attack.

The figure included 11 attacks on mosques, in a series manifestation of anti-Muslim sentiments.

These attacks carried the flavor of the far-right after swastikas and the letters “EDL [English Defence League]”, “KKK [The Ku Klux Klan]” and “NF [The National Front]” were sprayed on mosque walls.

“What is significant about our analysis is the extent to which the far right is implicated in anti-Muslim hate crime,” Copsey said.

Commenting on the report, a government adviser criticized the government’s ‘lack of political will’ to tackle mushrooming Islamophobia.

There remains a “lack of political will” to take on the rise of Islamophobic attacks in Britain,” a senior government adviser, who did not want to be named, told The Independent.

He added that attempts to “tackle this issue – even before Woolwich – struggled to attract buy-in,” with the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, identified as the primary source of frustration.

A spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government defended the department; saying Islamophobes had no place in Britain.

“There is no place for anti-Muslim hatred or any kind of hatred in Britain, and we are committed to tackling this unacceptable scourge,” he said.

Hostility against British Muslims, estimated at nearly 2.7 million, has been on the rise since the soldier’s killing, which Muslims condemned as running against the basic Islamic teachings.

Last Sunday, a mosque in the West Midlands region of Walsall was evacuated after the discovery of a bomb in the worship place.

Three Muslim worshippers were also stabbed after the night prayers in Birmingham three weeks ago.

A fire also gutted the Darul Uloom Islamic school in Foxbury Avenue in south-east London last week, a blaze described by the police as “suspicious”.

It came after a suspected arson attack on an Islamic centre in north London.

Amid increasing anti-Muslim attacks, Dr Matthew Goodwin, associate fellow at Chatham House and an expert on extremist groups, said there was light at the end of the hate tunnel.

“The broader picture is more positive than we think,” Goodwin said.

“Young people are more at ease accepting Muslims in society.”

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There remains a “lack of political will” to take on the rise of Islamophobic attacks in Britain,” a senior government adviser, who did not want to be named, told The Independent.
I believe this.
He added that attempts to “tackle this issue – even before Woolwich – struggled to attract buy-in,” with the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, identified as the primary source of frustration.

A spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government defended the department; saying Islamophobes had no place in Britain.

“There is no place for anti-Muslim hatred or any kind of hatred in Britain, and we are committed to tackling this unacceptable scourge,” he said.


I do not believe this.The reason is simple.If Islamophobes are severely persecuted,Muslims will be emboldened and will resort to terror attacks for what is happening in the Middle East.So to keep the muslims under check,key government policy makers are likely to let loose racists/racist-nationalists on muslims.
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How antisemitic is England nowadays...
Very antisemitic: Of course it helps to keep the country "clean" if you have Muslims 'protecting" your borders.
Baron Bodissey wrote: Keeping a “Little Jew” out of Britain
Posted on July 1, 2013 by Baron Bodissey

As a teenager living in England in the late 1960s, I traveled to the Middle East one summer for a tour of Egypt, Lebanon, Israel, and Cyprus. The members of the tour were advised not to have any Israeli stamps on their passports when they visited Egypt, and the tour was arranged so that we visited Israel after seeing Egypt and Lebanon.

Based on the following news story about what happened to a young Jewish American who flew into Heathrow earlier this summer, the same policy is now being followed in the UK. It seems that Britain has officially become a Middle Eastern Islamic country.

Note: In both the TV news report and the article, what is referred to as “Customs” is more likely “Immigration”.
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Below is an article about the incident from Israel National News:

Kansas Jewish Man Refused Entry Into Britain

A Jewish student from Kansas was denied entry into Britain for a summer job several weeks ago – apparently due to a customs agent’s anti-Semitism.

After being detained for more than nine hours, he was put back on a plane to the United States by customs officials. During that time he was never told why he was being denied entry.

According to the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle, the British man who had offered Louis “Chip” Cantor summer work experience, Kevin Shilling, said the British border agent he spoke to in his attempt to get Cantor admitted into Britain made more than one anti-Semitic comment to him during the telephone conversation they had.

Chip Cantor told his story to two local television stations last month. On June 4, he told KMBC he was traveling to Britain to visit and gain summer work experience, and to participate in a fundraiser for a child who has cancer. He left Kansas City on Wednesday, May 29, landed in Britain after 10 p.m. London time and waited in line to go through customs.

When he got to the front of the line, a female customs agent began looking at his passport. Chip’s father, Chuck Cantor, said his son told him the customs agent was very pleasant toward him until she saw the Israel stamps in his passport. Then she simply walked away with his passport without speaking a word to him. Chip told his father he estimates she was gone 45 minutes to an hour. He never saw her again.

“He has a lot of Israel stamps,” Chuck said. Chip has been to Israel several times including two programs sponsored by Young Judea — the six-week Machon program and a gap-year program. Chip Cantor graduated from Shawnee Mission East High School in 2009 and will be a senior in the fall at Florida Gulf Coast University.



Finally, according to Chuck, a different, uniformed customs agent came to see him and told him the agents would be taking his bags and detaining him for questioning. He was not told why.

Once in the interview room Chip told his father that he was told if he changed any of his answers to any questions, he was going to go to prison.

“He said, ‘Why would I change my answers? I told you the truth,’ “ Chuck said.

According to the Chronicle, Chip wasn’t allowed to be in sight of his luggage and eventually was put into what he described to his father as a detention cell.

“At some point a woman who was wearing a burka came to the cell to photograph him,” Chuck said. At that point he was fingerprinted as well.

As she was doing this, she said to him, “We’re putting your name and fingerprints and photos into a database. From now on it is going to be very difficult for you to ever travel in the United Kingdom or anywhere in the E.U. It will be up to each individual country to decide if they want to admit you.”

Chuck said Chip kept telling the customs agents he had not committed any crimes or done anything wrong. Eventually another agent came to tell Chip he was being deported.

Now several hours after he was detained, Chip was given the opportunity to call his father. Chuck asked to speak directly to the customs agent involved and was connected with Philip G. Yeomans.

After Chuck spoke to Yeomans, he contacted Kevin Shilling, his managing director and owner of Shilling Communications, the British company where Chip was supposed to be employed for the summer. It was about 3 a.m., London time. Shilling, who is not Jewish, called Yeomans.

Shilling noted that while the conversation didn’t accomplish anything, Yeomans made several anti-Semitic comments. At one point, Shilling recounted, when Shilling was explaining the reason Chip was in the country, the customs agent told Shilling that Chip should have lied to the customs agent, adding, “A Jewish kid would find that easy.”

Yeomans, the custom agent, also told Shilling any additional attempts to aid Cantor would be useless and “the little Jew will be on his way back to his rich daddy,” in a matter of hours.

Chip said he was given only a half of a sandwich and very little water throughout the nine hours of detention. In the morning, Chip was escorted to the plane by another customs agent for a flight back to the United States. “The guy walks him onto the plane and in front of everyone, like a prisoner, he says here is this man’s passport. Do not give him his passport until you land in the United States,” Chuck said he was told. The American Airlines purser told Chip that, in 17 years flying internationally, he had never seen anything like it.

When contacted by the Chronicle, Shilling said, “I’m really so sorry for Chip and the way he was treated. I want to reassure all your readers that if they plan a visit to the U.K., once they get past the U.K. Border Agency they will find friendly, welcoming people, without prejudice.”
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Ariel wrote:“Hello. My name is Paul Weston and I am a racist”
(snip)
If Britain is to survive and prosper, this is the man it desperately needs to elect as its next prime minister.
I agree.

It is actually a VERY smart move by Weston to mock the "racist" term by calling himself a "racist" (which he of course is not).

It draws attention to the fact that the term "racist" has lost almost all of its sting. Like a knife that has been used over and over again without being sharpened, the word "racist" has become utterly blunted from overuse and incorrect use.

The irony is that it is the *Left* that is responsible for this state of affairs by calling anyone who is against Islam a "racist." IMO, they have shot themselves in the foot.
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Yes, it's been suggested before that the Border Agency has the lunatics guarding the asylum. So it stands to reason that they let the wrong people in and keep the OK people out.
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Unbelievable...I don't believe it...Qatada 'to be booted out by Sunday'. Bye, bye hate-beard Abu Qatada. Don't forget to take your family.
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The ten-year battle to deport Abu Qatada was finally nearing its conclusion tonight. Preparations are in hand to put the hate preacher on a plane home early on Sunday. The farcical saga, which has enraged politicians and the public alike, has already cost £2million.

Although ministers insist legal hurdles remain, Whitehall sources say the Al Qaeda fanatic should be handed over to the authorities in Jordan this weekend. The breakthrough follows today’s adoption by the Middle Eastern state of a treaty that will protect Qatada’s human rights.

He has made this a condition of him voluntarily going home to face trial over his alleged involvement in a bomb plot.
Tonight Channel 4 News revealed he will be served with new papers for his deportation that give him 72 hours to appeal.

If he honours his word he will be put on a flight home from RAF Northolt in West London.

Tonight security minister James Brokenshire said: ‘While further steps remain, our focus is on seeing Abu Qatada on a plane to Jordan at the earliest opportunity.’

Qatada – once dubbed Osama Bin Laden’s right hand man in Europe – has repeatedly used human rights laws to thwart his removal.

He claimed his trial for plotting a terror attack would be unfair because some of the evidence used against him may have been obtained by torture.

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Quatada going at last? Why am I not convinced? Do the Jordanians know what they're letting themselves in for?
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Threatened With Death? Don’t You Dare Tell Anyone!

Tommy Robinson, the leader of the English Defence League, receives numerous death threats via Twitter. When he retweeted some of them, the Bedfordshire Police took prompt action to track down the threatening tweeters, arrest them, and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law…

NOT. :no1:

A few days ago Tommy tweeted the following:

@bedspolice just called me to say don’t retweet death threats or I’d be arrested as they cause people distress? I ****ing kid u not!

A Facebook post on the same topic was put up at about the same time, but before I could acquire a copy of the text, it was gone. Not only was the post removed, but the entire group was taken down by Facebook.

Tommy can’t show the world all the death threats that have been made against him on Twitter, but Vlad Tepes lives in Ottawa, and is therefore less at risk of being arrested. He has compiled a brief selection of some of the threatening tweets aimed at Tommy.

But we can. Vlad Tepes says



These are a very tiny sample of the hundreds of tweets and FB posts that ranged from the mere vulgar and obviously not serious in intent (although serious in sentiment) to the actual threats of murder. It took me a long time to read the ones I have let alone assemble a few of them here.
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Re: Islam in England.

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Preaching murder - conducive to public good?

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This London-based hate preacher has publicly advocated murder on an "Asian" UK TV channel. The channel has been fined, but there's no suggestion that any action at all has been taken against the preacher. Surely he should be charged or deported?
His name (not real?) is "Abdul Qadir Jilani" and he lives in Walthamtow, East London.
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Surely he should be charged or deported?
I guess they are afraid to annoy Muslims. It is much easier to go after the EDL. That way Muslims are not going to think the police is racist.
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Is it fairly common for Jews to be turned away by customs?
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Ibn Rushd wrote:Is it fairly common for Jews to be turned away by customs?
I think it probably was the Border Agency as first stated, not customs. That being so, they've been damned as "not fit for purpose" and don't seem at all fussy about whom they employ - in the "lunatics guarding the asylum" sense. So maybe the guy just got unlucky - not that that's any excuse for such a disgrace. Maybe they were having a trial run in case Pamela Geller turned up?
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